Message-ID: <000a01c97b2e$ec04f630$0201a8c0@Jensen> From: "Don Jensen" <dnjkenosha@wi.rr.com> Subject: Re: ListServ Museum - Question re copying donated printed material Date: Tue, 20 Jan 2009 12:43:01 -0600
I think not. Just as letters written from one person to another,
similarly containing very personal thoughts, become the property of the
recipient, who can freely make them public, or not, as he or she sees
fit, yearbooks with personal messages inscribed also belong to the
yearbook owner or his or her heirs.
If an institution properly acquires all rights from previous owners,
through donation, this is not a problem.
Again, I feel we, as custodians of various elements of history, ought
not to seek problems.
We should keep our eye on the ball, and upon our responsibility to
preserve history and to make it readily available to all.
If one begins to search for problems that do not present real or
practical difficulties, we tend to paralyze ourselves and weaken our
ability to succeed in our mission!
--Don Jensen
Member, BoD
Kenosha History Center
----- Original Message -----
From: Jim Laird
To: localhistory@listserve.uwec.edu
Sent: Tuesday, January 20, 2009 12:05 PM
Subject: Re: ListServ Museum - Question re copying donated printed
material
Brings up the possibility of other problems. Many of our oldest high
school annuals belonged to people who graduated from the high school, as
such, they have written comments from student to student, many very
personal. At present they are available to the public, but I suppose the
time will come that they will have to be secured.
Jim Laird
Waupun Historical Society
----- Original Message -----
From: ckohl1@wi.rr.com
To: localhistory@listserve.uwec.edu
Sent: Friday, January 16, 2009 1:10 PM
Subject: Re: ListServ Museum - Question re copying donated printed
material
We at the Wisconsin Slovak Historical Soc. Have not come across such
a problem as yet, but you sure explained it well. I will make a copy of
your letter so we can have it on hand if we need some reassuring.
Darinka Kohl
----- Original Message -----
From: Don Jensen
To: localhistory@listserve.uwec.edu
Sent: Thursday, January 15, 2009 3:56 PM
Subject: Re: ListServ Museum - Question re copying donated printed
material
To the original question, there is a legal answer and a practical
answer.
The legal question is whether the retired teacher/donor had all
rights to the papers of her long ago students and signed them away to
you, with the donation. Or do some residual rights remain with those
one-time students, should any of them be alive, be contactable, or even
care very much what you do?
But from a practical view, I don't feel it much matters. The
practical answer is that the risk of litigation in this instance is so
small as to be negligible, and the potential harm in the unlikeliest of
circumstances that you could face litigation is very small.
To get hung up on such small legal questions is like refusing EVER
to go outdoors because of the remote possibility you might be struck by
lightning. That reaction paralyzes to into inactivity!
One weighs risks and comes to a conclusion that makes practical
sense. And the risk that after all these years, someone would sue you
for copyright violation is miniscule. The consequences
of the tiny risk also are small.
.
Here is the likely situation:
(1) nobody connected with those vintage papers will be around,
nobody will care or object if they are. If there are survivors, odds
are most likely that they will be flattered at your historical interest,
and will not object.
If it makes you feel better, check your local phonebook to see if
any of those once-students are still around. Likely you won't be able
to contact any of them, but at least you made a good faith effort to
find them. (I still feel you have no obligation to get their permission
anyway).
(2) lawsuitts go only where there is money, because lawsuits cost
money to mount. Lawyers who collect only when the client collects don't
take cases where there is no money. Sale of a few books doesn't
generate enough money for some greedy disgruntled one-time student to go
after. And even if you somehow made a mistake in printing the book,
there is no malice involved.
Ok, suspenders and a belt are over-reactions, but to the ultra
cautious, extra protection is worth the effort. But wearing three
belts and two sets of suspenders is carrying caution beyond realistic or
sensible limits. It is looking for potential trouble (all will fail
and your pants will fall down) when the likelihood of that occurring is
miniscule.
Excessive fear of unlikely or unsuccessful lawsuits paralyzes an
organization. React to reasonable, realistic dangers. Lock your doors
to prevent theft. Insure your museum against fire or liability costs if
somebody fell down your stairs. That is prudent and wise.
Reacting to unreasonable, highly unlikely dangers with only modest
repercussions, freezes an organization in inaction.
Worrying that someone might bankrupt your organization by winning
a copyright lawsuit because you published their 70-year-old school
papers as a moneymaker for your non-profit agency? I think that falls
into the multiple suspenders/belts category.
I would simply publish it!
A further suggestion that may make you more comfortable. . .
recruit a local lawyer to your board, even knowing he or she won't be
able to attend most of your board meetings. Many lawyers, for personal
or business reasons, are willing to be part of a worthy civic
organization, provided the demands aren't too great on their time.
Then, all it takes is a phone call for an off-the-cuff but likely
ballpark-correct answer that will calm your legal worries.
Don Jensen
Kenosha History Center board member
.
----- Original Message -----
From: cnite51@aol.com
To: localhistory@listserve.uwec.edu
Cc: cnite51@aol.com
Sent: Thursday, January 15, 2009 11:52 AM
Subject: Re: ListServ Museum - Question re copying donated
printed material
Hi Nancy,
This is just a thought, but the Marquette University Law School
is supposed to offer free legal help for Non-profit organizations.
Perhaps if you asked them this question. The following is copied from
Rick Bernstein's email "Pro Bono Initiative Fund of the State Bar of
Wisconsin. Nonprofit corporations may inquire about pro bono legal
services by calling M-LINC at (414) 288-6331 or at (888) 530-5462."
Just a thought. I hope it helps.
Carolyn Knight
Mayville Limestone School Museum
cnite51@aol.com
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