Re: Question re Book Printing

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Don Jensen (dnjkenosha@wi.rr.com)
Tue, 8 Nov 2011 17:16:11 -0600



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From: "Don Jensen" <dnjkenosha@wi.rr.com>
Subject: Re: Question re Book Printing
Date: Tue, 8 Nov 2011 17:16:11 -0600

I am not clear why you are considering 8-1/2 by 11, A standard size is 5-1/2 by 8-1/2. The latter is a handier size and binding is easier and, in my view, sturdier. And you have an attractive book, easier to sell, than one of those 8-1/2 by 11 coil/comb bound things that look like a school workbook! And you get 4 pages per sheet, rather than two, at the 8-1/2 by 11 size sheet. As suggested, you should have it laid out in final form as 5-1/2 by 8-1/2 pages with your own software. Surely, in your group, you have someone who is savvy enough with computers to do so, lay it out, insert photos, whatever, with page numbering, etc. In short... having the book camera-ready for the printer. Type size should be about 9 pt on 10 pt. spacing, or maybe, for us old timers, an easier to read 10 pt on 11 pt. spacing.

That means you are handling this first part of the “publishing job” with your own volunteers at no out-of-pocket expense.. No need to spend money on a publisher. Take your camera ready text to a printer, and pay only for the printing and binding. Have the layout of the pages done by your volunteer, I’d guess that laid out in camera-ready 5-1/2 by 8-1/2 in pages, you probably are talking 200 to 220 pages. I would go soft cover
(heavier stock for the cover, of course) and “Perfect” (glued) binding (too many pages for the previously mentioned saddle-stapled, which as noted is easy and cheap for say a 50 page pamphlet) Your chosen printer should be able to take your camera-ready pages and print and bind the books.

Financing the books is an important part of success. After you have your camera-ready pages, take them to the printer and get cost estimates for the cost of producing a finished bound book With that knowledge, estimate how many books you will sell initially,. These are the PRE-PUBLICATION paid orders. Then promote the forthcoming book like crazy. . . local newspaper promotion, local radio station promotion (both should be free), have a sign up promotion at your institution, have board members promote PRE-PUB orders from friends, acquaintances. . If your printer’s price is, say $5 per issue, and you believe you can sell 100 copies, PRE PUBLICATION by offering these early buyers a special deal, say $9.95 vs a later $12.95 price, that is an incentive for early pre-pub. sales.

Then you have cash up front, in my example,, $995 to pay the printer. At, for example, a $5 per copy price,he prints/binds 199 copies. You distribute the 100 pre-pub copies, and you have 99 more copies to sell at full price of $12.95 at your institution’s gift shop over the next year, two years, whatever. That gives you merchandise to sell that can bring a profit of $280, in my example, with no up front outlay.

Now my numbers are simply examples. The Point is to price your PRE-PUB sales to bring in money in advance of the printing/binding. The pre-pub sales should produce enough money pay for maybe a third to a half more finished copies of the book than your PRE-PUB sales. That is a remaining surplus of “free” books you can sell at full price for your profit. No risking your own Society’s money here. If your printer keeps the original plates, he can easily, and more cheaply, produce more copies when you’ve sold out your original gift shop stock. This book can be self sustaining for years, this way.

The PRE-PUB sales effort should be intense and not last more than about 6 to 8 weeks before you can deliver the copies to PRE-PUB buyers. It is all doable, I assure you.
  Don Jensen Kenosha History Center

From: sara m steele Sent: Tuesday, November 08, 2011 2:41 PM To: localhistory@listserve.uwec.edu Subject: Re: Question re Book Printing

Hi

I second what Nancy said about looking at your market carefully as you make your decisions about hard or soft cover and number of copies..

Number of copies Also, look at your storage space. Do you have space to store a large quantity of books which will slowly sell over the next twenty years? Or are you going to aim for a shorter market time and smaller number of copies? Guess at how many will sell now and at what price people will be interested in paying. Then consider the cost of that number vs the cost of ordering and storing more. Also check on the costs and procedures of doing reruns before you make a decision.

Think, too, of the number of courtesy copies you will need to budget for--school IMC's, your library, WHS, other library archives, people who worked on the book, or supplied much of the material. In strict accounting those courtesy copies lower the amount from sales and raise the cost per book sold. That raises a question of your society's purpose in printing the book. Is it to raise money or is it to make information available in a print form now and for later generations and you will be happy if you break even?

You may want to look for sponsors who will pick up part or all of the printing costs.

Consider your market potential Be prepared that the market may be very small. There are a few true history buffs in most communities who will purchase a local history book. And a few people who are willing and able to buy to support your society regardless of whether or not they ever get around to reading it
. The number and type of photos and the amount of interesting items about people, places,and events currently living in your community or the relatives of those who have lived in your community will attract some people just because of their memories,. Proud as we may be of a local history book, there often is not a huge market. Often the more comprehensive and remote the content is the fewer people will buy it.

I think some Societies have asked for advance orders to help gauge the market.

Publisher or printer? Also consider the difference between a publisher and a printer. We send our specific topic reports to an excellent printer who simply prints the copy ready PDF file. They do a proof if we want it, print, and then will deliver the finished product. They take no responsibility for the content other than they did ask me to change a table in the Civil War report when a table was so large it got into the margins.

However, we have never tried to run 150 pages. We do specific topic reports of about 50 pages which can be center stapled. I don't know whether printers do the professional bind and book size you will want for 150 pages.. However, contact me (smsteele@wisv.edu) if you like and I will give you the email address of the man I work with at Coakly Tech.

Our first report was done at a routine print shop (Fed Ex, Office Depot, Kinkos, etc.) with the spiral binding, but the slick cover, center staple from a printing company is more professional looking and surprisingly inexpensive.

Depending on the publisher, the publisher may provide some additional services at cost. Before the days of desk top printing and the ease of inserting photos, one almost had to go through a book publisher.

By the way, if you decide to check out printers, be sure to to include who ever does the printing of your local newspaper. They may not be able to take on the job, but by contacting the editor and inquiring you might be paving the way for publicity later.

Making the book available for sale The getting the book into the hands of readers sometimes requires as much thought as the actual writing of a book. Hopefully your Society have a member who will do the marketing and handle sales. Will you only have it available at your museum or heritage house? Will you have a booth at a festival, pan cake breakfast or other places the community gathers? will you have sales outlets? Will you have someone monitoring to be sure that no books other than the courtesy copies go out without dollars coming in?

Sorry, as you have noticed, when I get thinking about a topic, my fingers fly.

Sara Steele Cottage Grove Area Historical Society

On 11/7/2011 8:02 PM, Arlene Leppin wrote:
  Any tips or suggestions on printing a book for our Historical Society?
 It will be about 150 pages, and was wondering what publishers other societies used. Any tips, and things to beware of, please let me know. Also, what format would you recommend? A soft cover 8x11 or a hard covered book? How many copies should we order with the first printing? Any ideas would help.

  Arlene Leppin
  Fairwater Historical Society
  haleppin@centurytel.net



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